Hi, just after some help and advice if possible, for both me and my missus. we both suffer from bad knees, my right patellar ligament has been playing up for a few years now, due to the usual case of taking too many roids, got too strong too quick and ligament failed. Ended up with tendonitis, never been the same since. Ive ran pharma grade GH, Pfizer and Ansomone with spot injections around the area, didnt help at all, in fact it made things worse with the GH drying my joints out and crippling me. I ran Pfizer first and just gritted my teeth. Switched over the to 10x 4iu Ansomone kit and managed 3 days back to back of 4iu then had to stop. I couldnt get up form a seated position, pain was terrible. Had to drop GH completely, felt so much better afterwards. missus, shes got it worse than me. She used to swim for county and national level as a teenager and then going to uni and becoming a PE teacher. Now, her knees are fecked. Both of them. Shes in so much pain shes had to ditch teaching, knees sometimes just go from under her, she thinks its cartilage, or lack of it, from swimming and impact sports. She believes its the laterial and medial meniscus. The NHS treatment show far has just been an xray that they say doesnt help, so went to 3 physio sessions at a local hospital, all she got was leaflets of stretches to do at home, and had 2 acupuncture pins in each knee. Third session was reduced to 30mins from an hour. All 3 sessions were by different nurses who had to read up what the others had done while we were waiting. 4th sesh was cancelled. In other words it was absolutely shite! She needs a MRI scan to actually see whats wrong, but being 31 years old "shes too young" and they wont give her one. Noticed a lot of people, as well as people suggesting, using Beta-4 for repair and recovery? Ive never used so know little, but im/we're desperate to try something to help with recovery. Im not taking any prescription painkillers but the missus is, quite heavy ones, but at night when shes not working. Both sitting on the sofa now with ice packs on our knees like a couple of old farts lol. Would Beta-4 be any good for either of us? If so what is the procedure for usage and dose? also ive now heard that BPC 157 is better, as Beta-4 is just an anti-inflammatory? any help would be kindly appreciated.