@Dr Angell @Dr Waktare It would seem that there is a massive surge in the use of GH and insulin at the moment, moreso the GH due to pharmaceutical grade GH becoming more widely available and slightly more affordable. The effects of steroids on the heart are fairly well documented and discussed quite regularly, but it seems that similar debates or articles rarely crop up when referring to GH and Insulin. Most people is aware of the dangers insulin with regards to blood sugar levels dropping dangerously low etc but there never seems to be much about other damages, particularly to the heart. @Dr Waktare - Can you recall caring for any Type 2 diabetics? (The Insulin dependant one I think). I wondered how the advice you give would vary, if at all to someone who was not insulin dependant? @Dr Angell - Did you ever do studies about growth hormone or is it solely AAS? I remember you asking what I used during the lab exercise but sadly I did not do growth! Will try harder next time It would be great is you could point to any studies which you believe might be of use as there are quite a few but I imagine the lab rats in them are using GH for a medicincal purpose and not to pack on muscle. If you know of any please share them!